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| − | + | Ein Buch müsst ihr lesen, eins aus der [[Exzerpt eines primär- und eines Sekundärtexts (unbenotet)|Liste]] (und selbst da erlaubt Anton Kirchhofer Teillektüren). Das andere ist ein kurzer Aufsatz und sollte drin sein. | |
| − | + | ==Werden in den Tutorien Beispielaufgaben für den "written test" besprochen?== | |
| − | + | Wir bereiten euch auf den "written test" vor, die genaue Form steht momentan noch nicht fest. | |
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| − | + | ==Gibt es noch ergänzende Literatur zur Vorlesung?== | |
| − | + | Zur Frage Geschichte des Literaturbegriffs steht ein Aufsatz von Olaf Simons auf der Wikipage gleich neben der Präsentation. | |
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| − | + | Es ist grundsätzlich in Ordnung, wenn ihr die Exzerpte handschriftlich verfasst. Ihr sollt da in eine | |
| − | + | Es ist euch freigestellt, ob ihr die Exzerpte auf Deutsch oder auf Englisch verfasst. | |
| − | + | Wir werden euch noch darüber informieren, in welcher Form die Exzerpte eingereicht werden sollen. | |
| − | + | ==Wo finden wir die Texte der Liste "Literary Criticism"?== | |
| − | + | Diese Aufsätze findet ihr in der Bibliothek (--> Tipp: Sucht nach den Hrsg. Felicity Nussbaum bzw. Eric Hobsbawm).--[[User:Christina Stindl|Christina Stindl]] 20:06, 17 November 2007 | |
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| + | Version 1: The rise of the novel has been completed in 1700. This opinion is based on the fact that courtly romances were replaced by works of authors like Madame de La Fayette and Cervantes. The instructive moral of romances has been abolished and turned into more scandalous themes. Cervantes was the first one who gave up the typical style of writing and introduced themes like adultery and the disdain of the aristocracy. | ||
| − | + | Version 2: The first novel was not the “novella” but “Robinson Crusoe”. This statement is based on the findings of Ian Watt, who was able to view “Robinson Crusoe” as the first modern novel by referring to a drama called “Pamela” written by Richardson in 1740. Ian Watt recognized Daniel Defoe as the first one, who introduced the typical hero. Therefore, the drama written by Richardson can be regarded as a turning point and the start of the development of a new form of drama. By now, the individual becomes more important as well as the achievements that could be made by the individual him-/herself. | |
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Revision as of 18:47, 27 November 2007
Contents
- 1 National License
- 2 Können wir auch einen bekannten Text exzerpieren, anstatt zwei Bücher zu lesen?
- 3 Werden in den Tutorien Beispielaufgaben für den "written test" besprochen?
- 4 Gibt es noch ergänzende Literatur zur Vorlesung?
- 5 Können wir die Exzerpte handschriftlich verfassen? und auf Deutsch?
- 6 Wo finden wir die Texte der Liste "Literary Criticism"?
- 7 Different Version of the Rise of the Novel
National License
I have just received my user name and password from Berlin but I am having difficulties accessing the information. When I click on the link for next week's materials and enter my information it says nevertheless that my access is denied due to server problems or my name is invalid. However, when I go to my account from the link www.nationallizenzen.de/einzelnutzer-anmeldung I can access the EBBO/ECCO site. BUT I cannot access the literature that is assigned. I type in the title of the literature but it says that it cannot be found. I tried using the password and username which were given during the lecture but those are denied as well when I use the direct link on Wiki. What can I do? Thanks,
Kelly Jamison
- May be that is because the links I provided do already have the Oldenburg university access details in them - which might not match with your own log-in details. If you get into the EEBO or ECCO user-interface you should be able to find the titles with the regular search options.
- PS. As to accounts within our wiki - do please use real name accounts, i.e. Kelly Jamison rather than KellyJ83 [1]
- best --Olaf Simons 15:11, 27 October 2007 (CEST)
Können wir auch einen bekannten Text exzerpieren, anstatt zwei Bücher zu lesen?
Ein Buch müsst ihr lesen, eins aus der Liste (und selbst da erlaubt Anton Kirchhofer Teillektüren). Das andere ist ein kurzer Aufsatz und sollte drin sein.
Werden in den Tutorien Beispielaufgaben für den "written test" besprochen?
Wir bereiten euch auf den "written test" vor, die genaue Form steht momentan noch nicht fest.
Gibt es noch ergänzende Literatur zur Vorlesung?
Zur Frage Geschichte des Literaturbegriffs steht ein Aufsatz von Olaf Simons auf der Wikipage gleich neben der Präsentation.
Können wir die Exzerpte handschriftlich verfassen? und auf Deutsch?
Es ist grundsätzlich in Ordnung, wenn ihr die Exzerpte handschriftlich verfasst. Ihr sollt da in eine
Es ist euch freigestellt, ob ihr die Exzerpte auf Deutsch oder auf Englisch verfasst.
Wir werden euch noch darüber informieren, in welcher Form die Exzerpte eingereicht werden sollen.
Wo finden wir die Texte der Liste "Literary Criticism"?
Diese Aufsätze findet ihr in der Bibliothek (--> Tipp: Sucht nach den Hrsg. Felicity Nussbaum bzw. Eric Hobsbawm).--Christina Stindl 20:06, 17 November 2007
Different Version of the Rise of the Novel
“Three different versions of the rise of the novel” Version 1: The rise of the novel has been completed in 1700. This opinion is based on the fact that courtly romances were replaced by works of authors like Madame de La Fayette and Cervantes. The instructive moral of romances has been abolished and turned into more scandalous themes. Cervantes was the first one who gave up the typical style of writing and introduced themes like adultery and the disdain of the aristocracy.
Version 2: The first novel was not the “novella” but “Robinson Crusoe”. This statement is based on the findings of Ian Watt, who was able to view “Robinson Crusoe” as the first modern novel by referring to a drama called “Pamela” written by Richardson in 1740. Ian Watt recognized Daniel Defoe as the first one, who introduced the typical hero. Therefore, the drama written by Richardson can be regarded as a turning point and the start of the development of a new form of drama. By now, the individual becomes more important as well as the achievements that could be made by the individual him-/herself.
Version 3: Within the last thirty years, it has been realized that there must have been novels before “Robinson Crusoe”, so called proto novels. This discovery led to the fact that female authors increasingly became focus of public attention and started to gain respect.
The three versions have different advantages: Version 1: Serves as a justification of the European scandalous short story, in regard to it`s context. Version 2: Turned “Robinson Crusoe” into the first modern novel. Version 3: Turned female authors into “mothers of the modern novel” It has to be taken into account that: - Versions did not develop by chance - All three versions are true - Different versions pursue different goals - You define what you consider to be a novel or a romance - Stability of one definition is not given
