Talk:BM1 - Introduction to Literature - Assignment 2: Hamlet

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click here for a model solution. The following is the discussion the assignment found.

How 'bout this time we start a discussion on our assignment. why not give some possible answers to each question. As we read Hamlet in our course, I can only give suggestions on that, but I think the questions are more or less the same. Of courst everybody can ask whatever question he/she has. I bet our profs may even give us a few hints, but lets not count on that.

Since I didn't wright down much yet I will add the other question and answers on them later. Would be great if ppl comented on my answers and maybe even wrote down what they think. Please feel free to add things which u regard as important or erase shit, which in your eyes isn't important. But dont forget to MARK YOUR CHANGES!

Let make this work and we all get a great mark :) --Sebastian Henatsch 17:19, 1 June 2007 (CEST)

P.S. I wouldn't recomend you to copy/paste and rewrite this. Who knows if this is what the profs want.... also it would be too obvious

1.Analyse the communicative situation in this dialogue. Concentrate on form, length of individual speeches, interruptions and the domination of one speaker or idea.

Discussion Question 1

2. What do you find out about Hamlet's and Ophelia's characters in this passage? Identify different modes of characterisation and analyse their effect. Do the differences between Q1 and Q2 produce differences in the respective characterisations?

Discussion Question 2

3. Discuss different options of accounting for Hamlet's behaviour in this scene in the light of your knowledge of the entire play.

Discussion Question 3

Room for general questions

Hello everybody! Anyone an idea, what his <E1v> (Ofel.: You made me beleeve you did) and <E2> (Hamlet, up to line 148) means? Are we supposed to compare Q1 and Q2? That's not the question; they only want us to comment the stylistic (Rhetorik) things in Q1...Annika Prescher 13:12, 2 June 2007 (CEST)

if u are referring to Hamlets last paragraph (line 140 - 148), basicly he´s saying that women change their faces bzw. dont show their real faces. (i think there is something on the arden edition introduction on this paragrah). He´s sick of this. With the marriages he means the marriage of his mother and the king. also he (indirecly) warns her that he will kill the king. "all that are married but one shall live"
2nd. look at the aufgabenstellung in this wiki. it might be that u have an old version. they changed it once more shortly befor handing out this assignment--Sebastian Henatsch 13:42, 4 June 2007 (CEST)

What I'd like to know: Which question in the Assignment includes the stylistic things? I thought we had to comment on 1. communicative situation 2. modes of characterisation and 3. the options of H's behavior ?! May be I'm wrong and missed the part concerning the stylistic or rhetorical stuff... Verena Engelhardt 14:20, 2 June 2007 (CEST)

I think there are communicative stylistic things, used by the author, such as dialogue, rethorical questions, orders, etc. i don`t know whether u could call all these characerization forms stylistic things..... what exactly do u mean with "stylistic things"???--Sebastian Henatsch 13:42, 4 June 2007 (CEST)

okay, that is now clear (dialogue, orders, etc.) - thanks : ) my question referred to Annika's comment on "stylistic things" (rhetoric) which confused me, because there is a handout on rhetoric and I don't know how to use it (if we have to use it). Verena Engelhardt 12:31, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

Further informations and analyses about the excerpt can be found in the internet by searching for "nunnery scene"! -you will may found good ideas for the third task.

good luck, phil

How to refer to individual lines when quoting

[quote=Lisa Sophie Thieme] Guten Tag,

ich habe Fragen bezüglich des Assignments zu Hamlet:

In wieweit sollen wir die Zeilen angeben, die wir zitieren? Da es beim First Quarto ja gar keine Zeilenangaben gibt, ist eine Angabe ziemlich schwer. Außerdem: Wenn wir uns auf die Second Quarto Edition beziehen, können wir auch die gebundene Version der Arden Edition benutzen, obwohl sie ja z.T. etwas abweicht von der Version auf dem Assignment?

Vielen Dank im Voraus! Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Lisa Thieme [/quote]

Liebe Frau Thieme, gute Fragen. Ich schlage vor, Sie drucken das Assignment aus, nummerieren die Zeilen von Hand und zitieren dann mit Q1 bzw. Q2 plus zugewiesener Zeilennummer. Wenn Sie die Arden schon benutzt haben, ist das auch OK, aber eigentlich war sie nur als Vergleichsstelle angegeben. Beste Gruesse AK

In einem Wiki diskutieren

Kleine Tips von einem alten Wikipedianer: Wenn ihr eine Disku(ssion) führt, laßt alles auf einer Seite zusammen - Unterseiten müssen angeklickt und beobachtet werden, Zeug entfällt einem. Zweitens: füllt sie von Oben nach unten an. Eröffnet zu jedem Thema eine Überschrift - die nicht einfach "Frage 1" heißt, sondern das Problem formuliert. Unter der Überschrift wird sukzessive eingerückt, das geschieht, indem man vor einen neuen Absatz einen Doppelpunkt setzt. Der Fragesteller hat also nicht eingerückt, AW 1 wird mit einem Doppelpunkt eingerückt, die Reaktion darauf mit zweien und so fort. Später hat die Seite oben ein Inhaltsverzeichnis, das einem sagt, welche Themen da diskutiert wurden. Endlich sollte jeder seinen Diskussionsbeitrag mit vier Tilden signieren - sonst kann man icht erkennen, was da geschah. --Olaf Simons 10:09, 4 June 2007 (CEST)