View source for Talk:2008 BM1 Assignment 2: Antony and Cleopatra

In fact I have only one question:
How can I answer 5 questions properly on only 3 pages (especially with that given style sheet)?
Would be very much kind if someone can explain that to me...and the lines are incorrect.when we set the starting line with 123 then I count 166 or am I wrong? (as it is important for giving the sections)
Cheerz!

--[[User:Jessika Thiele]] 22:28, 22 May 2008 (CEST)

1. I think using our textbook for the line-references would be the best solution. 
2. I agree that question 5 looks rather extensive compared to the other tasks, but since every question offers the chance to earn the same number of points, I don't think that the teachers expect a very long, detailed answer here. --[[User:Alena Ruether|Alena Ruether]] 17:47, 23 May 2008 (CEST)

Da hast Du Recht! Die Aufgaben sind viel zu umfangreich und wenn man etwas rausließe, würde sich dies mit Sicherheit negativ auf die Note auswirken, da es dann nicht detailliert genug wäre.
Darüber hinaus bin ich auch der Ansicht, dass das in den Aufgaben geforderte nicht ausreichend im Seminar besprochen wurde. Ich fühle mich mit der Aufgabenstellung doch sehr allein gelassen!

I now started task 3...characterization.Am a little deep into Agrippa's speech...to me it seems kinda mixture between a dialogue (in first lines) and then it has more traits of a monologue...now on that sheet with the nice headline ''Analysing Dramatic Communication'' there is only choice between dialogue and soliloquy.quite confusing. So am I wrong and it is mainly a soliloquy? and whyyyyyy?
As I thought a soliloquy is some kind of monolgue without anyone watching.
Cheerz!
--[[User:Jessika Thiele]] 18:02, 23 May 2008 (CEST)

== EXcerpt questions ==

I do have the same problems!
And last time (first assignment)it really helped to have a look into the assignments from last  semester! But I don't know how to get there! So could anybody put the link in here?
That would be very kind!
I hope that will help!
Good luck to all the other --[[User:Lena Stüttelberg|Lena Stüttelberg]] 18:41, 23 May 2008 (CEST)

:Goto "Main Page" (left side), click "materials" (right side), then "Category: Tests", then "Assignment". But that won't help you since there ain't no example of any 2nd assignments. Or is it that I just can't see it, find it, or is the whole path I just described wrong? I need some help too...

::Just viewed the next problem: the passage thats being typed into the assignments "article" (btw: she 's called CLEOPATRA!;-) ) includes Lepidus' "Happily amen!", but Lepidus would be the FOURTH character. In 3. CAHARCTERISATION there are just THREE characters to characterise. CONFUSING ALL THIS! I hope that this is to be disregarded cause Lepidus just goes on my nerves (only concerning this assignment, this is!).



I have the same problem! which three characters??? Anthony, Caesar, Agrippa, and Lepidus are '''FOUR''' characters…… and Octavia could be another….. !!!?????? 

At frist...the three main characters are obviously Antony,Caesar and Agrippa...Lepidus is just a minor role and his ''Happily,Amen!'' is there cause it actually completes the dialogue (seals the decision of the marriage, as you wanna hear my opinion) and...the thing with Octavia...Octavia is not speaking in there...she is just in a different way of writing cause it is a person and all persons are written that way (look into your own main text and then you will see!)Cheerz! --[[User:Jessika Thiele|Jessika Thiele]] 21:45, 24 May 2008 (CEST)


:::Next problem (beloved Task 3 again): To what extend are we supposed to "anayse the effect"?!? I surely could write ten or more pages... Time is running!

::::I kind of like the plan that we don’t have to write ten pages. My solution for keeping it short is to just grab out a few passages which I analyse and then give a short statement with the quotation to underline it.

::::It helped me a lot to read the solutions of the assignments of 2007. Just search with the search function “assignment solution” and you will get there.

Some Links:
* [http://www.wiki.uni-oldenburg.de/fk3/angl-am/index.php?title=BM1_-_Introduction_to_Literature_-_Assignment_2:_Richard_III 2007 BM 1:Assignment 2: Richard III] and the [http://www.wiki.uni-oldenburg.de/fk3/angl-am/index.php?title=BM1_-_Introduction_to_Literature_-_Assignment_2:_Richard_III/Model_Solution 2007 BM 1:Assignment 2: Richard III - Model Solution]
* [http://www.wiki.uni-oldenburg.de/fk3/angl-am/index.php?title=BM1_-_Introduction_to_Literature_-_Assignment_2:_Merchant_of_Venice 2007 BM 1:Assignment 2: Merchant of Venice] - however, I can't find the solution
* [http://www.wiki.uni-oldenburg.de/fk3/angl-am/index.php?title=BM1_-_Introduction_to_Literature_-_Assignment_2:_Hamlet 2007 BM 1:Assignment 2: Hamlet] and its [http://www.wiki.uni-oldenburg.de/fk3/angl-am/index.php?title=BM1_-_Introduction_to_Literature_-_Assignment_2:_Hamlet/Model_Solution 2007 BM 1:Assignment 2: Hamlet - Model Solution]

== Quotationproblem ==

I do have a little problem in quoting, because it is hard for me to count the lines!
There are so many sentences going on in the next lines and therefore the lines are counted in another way and it is hard for me to reconstruct how they count! Maybe somebody could help me?

Or tell me the way/trick  to count the lines!
--[[User:Lena Stüttelberg|Lena Stüttelberg]] 21:27, 25 May 2008 (CEST)

I have the same problem…how are we supposed to count the lines if there are seven lines between line 20 and line 25????? Very annoying… --[[User:Marietta Sonnenschein|Marietta Sonnenschein]] 22:16, 25 May 2008 (CEST)

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It is verses they count and a verse is full when it has reached its full number of stressed syllables - we spoke about all this in the first sessions this semester, didn't we? Those who were with us might even be able to tell what kind of verses we have got here. --[[User:Olaf Simons|Olaf Simons]] 11:02, 26 May 2008 (CEST)

Well there is no problem in couting the stressed syllables.
But the problem is how many stressed syllables belong to one line?!
I think we did not do it in our course!


Do you use the Arden edition for your assignment? there you can see that sometimes when a new character starts speaking, it is intended, which means that it still counts to the line before!
And if you consider this, it fits with the lines!
--[[User:Fiebie|Fiebie]] 19:59, 26 May 2008 (CEST)