Poetry - Revision history

Olaf Simons at 16:10, 24 January 2008

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 *Poetry is divided up into a large number of genres: epic, tragedy, comedy, opera, song, ode, sonnet, elegy etc. etc.
 :These genres may be higher or lower, greater or smaller, fashionable or unfashionable at any particular time.
-*Poetry has a widespread presence, as an almost everyday form of writing. (For funerals, weddings, for the expression of religious sentiments and beliefs. -- Scholars write poems as prefaces to other scholars' works.)
+*Poetry has a widespread presence, as an almost everyday form of writing. (For funerals, weddings, for the expression of religious sentiments and beliefs. -- Scholars write poems as prefaces to other scholars' works. )
 ===Poetry after 1750===
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 ::*The term poetry itself was increasingly reduced in scope (only rarely used for dramatic or narrative texts), limited to a set of smaller poetic forms which had previously not been specifially labeled as a group.

Olaf Simons: /* Two things to consider in conclusion: */

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Two things to consider in conclusion:

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	::*The term poetry itself was increasingly reduced in scope (only rarely used for dramatic or narrative texts), limited to a set of smaller poetic forms which had previously not been specifially labeled as a group.		::*The term poetry itself was increasingly reduced in scope (only rarely used for dramatic or narrative texts), limited to a set of smaller poetic forms which had previously not been specifially labeled as a group.

	~~===Two things to consider in conclusion:===~~

	*Many elements of poetry (in the pre-1750 sense) have become vital elements of the newly-formed literature, e.g.:
	~~::*the poet / the author as an exceptional human being~~
	~~::*the concern with skilful, artful language~~
	~~::*the concept of the poetic / literary genre.~~


	*The settings and situations for production and circulation of poetry are manifold, and the changes in the way poetry is written, correspond to these different settings.
	~~::*Poems have entered the school syllabus (as national heritage, as a medium for developing one’s personality).~~
	~~::*Institutions that maintain the precarious position of the poet:~~
	~~:::*Prizes and Awards~~
	~~:::*Poetry readings~~
	~~:::*Poets in residence~~
	~~:::*Creative writing programmes at universities~~

Olaf Simons: /* Poetry before 1750 */

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Poetry before 1750

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	*Poetry is divided up into a large number of genres: epic, tragedy, comedy, opera, song, ode, sonnet, elegy etc. etc.		*Poetry is divided up into a large number of genres: epic, tragedy, comedy, opera, song, ode, sonnet, elegy etc. etc.
	:These genres may be higher or lower, greater or smaller, fashionable or unfashionable at any particular time.		:These genres may be higher or lower, greater or smaller, fashionable or unfashionable at any particular time.
	*Poetry has a widespread presence, as an almost everyday form of writing. (For funerals, weddings, for the expression of religious sentiments and beliefs. -- Scholars write poems as prefaces to other scholars' works. )		*Poetry has a widespread presence, as an almost everyday form of writing. (For funerals, weddings, for the expression of religious sentiments and beliefs. -- Scholars write poems as prefaces to other scholars' works.)


	===Poetry after 1750===		===Poetry after 1750===

Anton Kirchhofer: /* Two things to consider in conclusion: */

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Two things to consider in conclusion:

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	==What do we do with a poem?~~]]]~~		==What do we do with a poem?==
	Do NOT begin with analysing the metre and rhyme scheme. That comes later.		Do NOT begin with analysing the metre and rhyme scheme. That comes later.

Anton Kirchhofer: /* Some Received Notions: Poetry from today's perspective */

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Some Received Notions: Poetry from today's perspective

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	[http://www.bartleby.com/201/1.html T.S. Eliot, "The Waste Land", etext]		[http://www.bartleby.com/201/1.html T.S. Eliot, "The Waste Land", etext]

			[[Blake, Jerusalem (1804)]]

	===The Status of the Poet===		===The Status of the Poet===
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	*later 20c:		*later 20c:
	:increasingly personal voices; Sylvia Plath, Ted Hughes, Philip Larkin.		:increasingly personal voices; Sylvia Plath, Ted Hughes, Philip Larkin.




	==A More Complex Perspective: Changing Conceptions of Poetry==		==A More Complex Perspective: Changing Conceptions of Poetry==

Anton Kirchhofer: /* A More Complex Perspective: Changing Conceptions of Poetry */

2008-01-08T13:06:54Z

A More Complex Perspective: Changing Conceptions of Poetry

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	*Poetry is divided up into a large number of genres: epic, tragedy, comedy, opera, song, ode, sonnet, elegy etc. etc.		*Poetry is divided up into a large number of genres: epic, tragedy, comedy, opera, song, ode, sonnet, elegy etc. etc.
	:These genres may be higher or lower, greater or smaller, fashionable or unfashionable at any particular time.		:These genres may be higher or lower, greater or smaller, fashionable or unfashionable at any particular time.
	*Poetry has a widespread ~~and~~ everyday form of writing.		*Poetry has a widespread presence, as an almost everyday form of writing. (For funerals, weddings, for the expression of religious sentiments and beliefs. -- Scholars write poems as prefaces to other scholars' works. )


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	::*The term poetry itself was increasingly reduced in scope (only rarely used for dramatic or narrative texts), limited to a set of smaller poetic forms which had previously not been specifially labeled as a group.		::*The term poetry itself was increasingly reduced in scope (only rarely used for dramatic or narrative texts), limited to a set of smaller poetic forms which had previously not been specifially labeled as a group.

			===Two things to consider in conclusion:===

			*Many elements of poetry (in the pre-1750 sense) have become vital elements of the newly-formed literature, e.g.:
			::*the poet / the author as an exceptional human being
			::*the concern with skilful, artful language
			::*the concept of the poetic / literary genre.


	*The settings and situations for production and circulation of poetry are manifold, and the changes in the way poetry is written, correspond to these different settings.		*The settings and situations for production and circulation of poetry are manifold, and the changes in the way poetry is written, correspond to these different settings.

	::*Poems have entered the school syllabus (as national heritage, as a medium for developing one’s personality).		::*Poems have entered the school syllabus (as national heritage, as a medium for developing one’s personality).
	~~::*Poets possess a public presence as a characteristically private, but representative voice.~~
	::*Institutions that maintain the precarious position of the poet:		::*Institutions that maintain the precarious position of the poet:
	:::*Prizes and Awards		:::*Prizes and Awards

Anton Kirchhofer: /* A More Complex Perspective: Changing Conceptions of Poetry */

2008-01-08T13:01:15Z

A More Complex Perspective: Changing Conceptions of Poetry

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Anton Kirchhofer at 12:50, 8 January 2008

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	==Changing Conceptions of Poetry==		==A More Complex Perspective: Changing Conceptions of Poetry==

	===Poetry before 1750===		===Poetry before 1750===
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	::Percys ''Relics''		::Percys ''Relics''
	::Warton 1774		::Warton 1774

			:*This chronological rearrangement also changes the conditions under which new poets are writing.
			::Poets now aim for a place in this chronology.
			::Critics are monitoring the progress of the nation’s poets.
			::Poets can form groups / schools / movements which (may claim to) represent new tendencies and can attract critical controversy.

			::First example: the debate about the “modern school of English poetry”, later renamed the Romantic movement.


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	::*The term poetry itself was increasingly reduced in scope (only rarely used for dramatic or narrative texts), limited to a set of smaller poetic forms which had previously not been specifially labeled as a group.		::*The term poetry itself was increasingly reduced in scope (only rarely used for dramatic or narrative texts), limited to a set of smaller poetic forms which had previously not been specifially labeled as a group.



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	--Creative writing programmes at universities		--Creative writing programmes at universities

	~~:*This chronological rearrangement also changes the conditions under which new poets are writing.~~
	~~::Poets now aim for a place in this chronology.~~
	~~::Critics are monitoring the progress of the nation’s poets.~~
	~~::Poets can form groups / schools / movements which (may claim to) represent new tendencies and can attract critical controversy.~~

Anton Kirchhofer: /* WRITTEN TEST and Tutorials */

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WRITTEN TEST and Tutorials

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	==~~WRITTEN TEST~~ and Tutorials==		==REMINDER: Written Test and Tutorials==
	The written test will take place on January 22, 2008, at 14.00 h		The written test will take place on January 22, 2008, at 14.00 h
	It will be held in the lecture room next door to ours, in Hörsaal 1 (A14 1-101)		It will be held in the lecture room next door to ours, in Hörsaal 1 (A14 1-101)

Anton Kirchhofer: /* Changing Conceptions of Poetry */

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Changing Conceptions of Poetry

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	The corpus of existing poetry is reorganised along chronological and national lines:		The corpus of existing poetry is reorganised along chronological and national lines:

	Cf. ~~1675:~~ [http://eebo.chadwyck.com/search/full_rec?SOURCE=pgimages.cfg&ACTION=ByID&ID=12283212&FILE=../session/1199780670_5802&SEARCHSCREEN=CITATIONS&SEARCHCONFIG=var_spell.cfg&DISPLAY=ALPHA ''Theatrum Poetarum'', a collection of information on poets, divided up into Ancient Poets and Modern Poets, and arranged alphabetically ]		:*In the 17th century, poets had been divided into the ancients (Greek and Latin) and the moderns (Italian, French, English…)Cf. [http://eebo.chadwyck.com/search/full_rec?SOURCE=pgimages.cfg&ACTION=ByID&ID=12283212&FILE=../session/1199780670_5802&SEARCHSCREEN=CITATIONS&SEARCHCONFIG=var_spell.cfg&DISPLAY=ALPHA ''Theatrum Poetarum'', 1675, a collection of information on poets, divided up into Ancient Poets and Modern Poets, and arranged alphabetically ]

			:*After the mid-eighteenth century, there is a new mode of arrangement which is national and chronological. Cf.
			::Percys ''Relics''
			::Warton 1774



			Poetry is incorporated as a vital part of the newly-formed concept of Literature, but with some major differences to the older concept of poetry:
	~~The formation~~ of ~~literature (in~~ the ~~sense that we know it) has~~ major ~~consequences for~~ the concept of poetry:

	::*Literature implies the exclusion of some genres which used to be part of poetry (notably the central areas of opera and song)		::*Literature implies the exclusion of some genres which used to be part of poetry (notably the central areas of opera and song)
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			• Poems have entered the school syllabus (as national heritage, as a medium for developing one’s personality).
			• Poets possess a public presence as a characteristically private, but representative voice.
			• Institutions that maintain the precarious position of the poet:
			--Prizes and Awards
			--Poetry readings
			--Poets in residence
			--Creative writing programmes at universities

			:*This chronological rearrangement also changes the conditions under which new poets are writing.
			::Poets now aim for a place in this chronology.
			::Critics are monitoring the progress of the nation’s poets.
			::Poets can form groups / schools / movements which (may claim to) represent new tendencies and can attract critical controversy.